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ladyarakune
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, dumbass parents arent the only problem, its what is going to happen to that child? its putting your problem in the hands of the childcare system. some other people are going to have to adopt it, or that kid will just grow up witjhoput parents, and be another notch in the welfare system. its screwin america
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, abortion happens only when some guy had an unprotect sex with another girl, and the girl got pregnat and don't want the child. Why don't they think about the consequence first?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHo cares about what came before, mothers are faced with a decision at that time continue normally with the pregnancy or have an abortion.

Its up to the person's morals, I couldnt kill a child even unborn to make my life easier. Some people can, it's that simple,

Though I'm at odds with myself, one side is all peace and harmony, the other side is we need to cull most of the worlds population Confused Humanity sucks, we're parasites sad to say, so who complains when u kill a parasite?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CGY wrote:
Well, abortion happens only when some guy had an unprotect sex with another girl, and the girl got pregnat and don't want the child. Why don't they think about the consequence first?


agree.

it can never be too late to have sex, no matter how in love two people are. but chances are, they always have it too early.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pya wrote:
CGY wrote:
Well, abortion happens only when some guy had an unprotect sex with another girl, and the girl got pregnat and don't want the child. Why don't they think about the consequence first?


agree.

it can never be too late to have sex, no matter how in love two people are. but chances are, they always have it too early.


I agree with both of you. If you don't want a baby then use protection, if you don't use protectoin then it is your fault so don't kill an innocent baby for your mistake. This whole abortion issue could be avoided.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the best way to prevent abortion is organizing more sex education *especially* for elementary and high school kids. They have to learn to openly discuss this issue and if oneday their partner tries to force them they know how to reject. they gotta openly admit they are not ready.

It also reminds them of the consequences. They might realize that sex is not something that if you'll regret not having because you will always have more chances as you grow older.... but imagine u are an abandoned mom. that would hurt more on health, self esteem, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

under certain circumstances, i would say abortion is appropriate such as a rape victims, although i believe its harsh to have an abortion, could you imagine going through life knowing your the son/daughter of a rapist, that would be almost unbearable if it was me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladyarakune wrote:
well, dumbass parents arent the only problem, its what is going to happen to that child? its putting your problem in the hands of the childcare system. some other people are going to have to adopt it, or that kid will just grow up witjhoput parents, and be another notch in the welfare system. its screwin america


The Welfare System is here to help people with problems, why do people look down at it? Welfare is a wonderful system that provides families with food and shelter, there's nothing wrong with that. People make it sound much worst than it is.

frozen_chicken wrote:
under certain circumstances, i would say abortion is appropriate such as a rape victims, although i believe its harsh to have an abortion, could you imagine going through life knowing your the son/daughter of a rapist, that would be almost unbearable if it was me.


It's not that horrible. Giving a life is delivering a child the best gift he can. It doesn't matter who the father is or how he was born. I'm not going to lie and say I was intended to be a child because my mom could've easily told me that, but I thank her everyday when I pray before bed, even on my worst days of life.

Some people outta be ashamed of fully supporting abortion because you never know if you were intended and just like that, you can not be living right now because your mom was selfish.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firetears wrote:
ladyarakune wrote:
well, dumbass parents arent the only problem, its what is going to happen to that child? its putting your problem in the hands of the childcare system. some other people are going to have to adopt it, or that kid will just grow up witjhoput parents, and be another notch in the welfare system. its screwin america


The Welfare System is here to help people with problems, why do people look down at it? Welfare is a wonderful system that provides families with food and shelter, there's nothing wrong with that. People make it sound much worst than it is.


Welfare is good only when used sparingly and in a way that doesn't encourage people to be lazy who would just apply for it when they don't feel like working. The tax payers who work for a living who are supporting the welfare system can end up supporting some lazy bum who just leeches off everybody else. Of course there is nothing wrong with welfare in general, but it most definitely should be used only to support people who are desperate and have no other choice. The abusers are just leeches on society. To sum it all up: Many people hate welfare because the abusers are pretty much just getting free money for not doing anything, from people who actually worked for it. If you still think welfare is still the greatest thing in the world, then I'll think that you're a communist(not necessarily a good thing).

And one more thing, I still hate abortion. It's bad, don't do it if you can help it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SnowfairyX wrote:
Firetears wrote:
ladyarakune wrote:
well, dumbass parents arent the only problem, its what is going to happen to that child? its putting your problem in the hands of the childcare system. some other people are going to have to adopt it, or that kid will just grow up witjhoput parents, and be another notch in the welfare system. its screwin america


The Welfare System is here to help people with problems, why do people look down at it? Welfare is a wonderful system that provides families with food and shelter, there's nothing wrong with that. People make it sound much worst than it is.


Welfare is good only when used sparingly and in a way that doesn't encourage people to be lazy who would just apply for it when they don't feel like working. The tax payers who work for a living who are supporting the welfare system can end up supporting some lazy bum who just leeches off everybody else. Of course there is nothing wrong with welfare in general, but it most definitely should be used only to support people who are desperate and have no other choice. The abusers are just leeches on society. To sum it all up: Many people hate welfare because the abusers are pretty much just getting free money for not doing anything, from people who actually worked for it. If you still think welfare is still the greatest thing in the world, then I'll think that you're a communist(not necessarily a good thing).

And one more thing, I still hate abortion. It's bad, don't do it if you can help it.


Laughing "The most wonderful thing in the World?" No! I was just pointing out that Welfare isn't a bad program and actually help people who are in need of it. I am not a communist and I did understand why people think the way they do, but you can't always just jump the shark because a system does have a flaw. If the system was meant to help people, we should take that fact into consideration as well. That's all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it comes to abortion, there is no doubt in my mind the so called
"fetus" is a human being(just a baby one). Once you determine that the child is human then it becomes a question of whether or not the child is being murdered during this abortion. If the child is being murdered, do you believe murder is alright?
If you believe murder is okay... then abortion is okay too.

Of course there are always situation where the child was unplanned and this is unfortunate for the mother most of all, but I believe that it is better to have the child. The mother could always put the child up for adoption.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrGantz wrote:
When it comes to abortion, there is no doubt in my mind the so called
"fetus" is a human being(just a baby one). Once you determine that the child is human then it becomes a question of whether or not the child is being murdered during this abortion. If the child is being murdered, do you believe murder is alright?
If you believe murder is okay... then abortion is okay too.

Of course there are always situation where the child was unplanned and this is unfortunate for the mother most of all, but I believe that it is better to have the child. The mother could always put the child up for adoption.


Agree
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
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