Debate - Japan to be in the UN Permanent Security Council?

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[ValMar]

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[ValMar]

[free_fighter]

Nah. It should be other countries. And speaking of which, why did Japan urge Korea to apologize? Not them themselves?(Correct me if im wrong)

They are, in my knowledge, assaulting other countries by means of pyhsological(sp?) war.
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[IHateLois]

i agree with u and ur first argument says it all but that ww2 thing is not that strong i mean come on it's a world war ppl and governmenst do things at that time that they wouldn't have normaly done plus no1 is holdin other countries for wat they did except germany being the fact that the basically started it(although it is funny how far they'll go to try to erase their past )
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[Fukui]

my view is that Japan should not be allowed to join. there are other countries that should be considered before it.

the only reason that the US wants Japan to join is to "rein in" China which the US sees as its greatest emerging threat in terms of economic and military strength. The american strategy has long been to use Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan to stop mainland chinese influence from spreading into the pacific. this is quite evident for those who've been following the history there. one example would be the proposed missle defence shield (not the star wars one that doesnt work) for the american allies. it stems from the american desire to remain the sole superpower.

it will take some great political incentive for china to allow this. something on the scale of america declaring never to sell weapons to taiwan... or setting a deadline for the chinese re-unification.

but whatever the case, the whole world can join in the permanent counsel, and it would still be no secret that china is going to be the sole superpower in 30 years time. they dont say that the 21st century belongs to the chinese for nothing. and about time too. civilizations fluctuate in greatness over time... the time for the "West" is over. its time for china, india and brazil to shine.
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as for koizumi visiting the shrine for past war dead... dont forget that he's above all a politician. everyone seems to think that because japan lost the war, that there is no hawkish right wing extremism left in the country.. well that isnt true. its an act to gather support for his own political gain.

or if u look at it another way, who wouldn't want to be the PM who restores the pride of the nation and return it to glory (although a diff glory from before). koizumi's gov has already amedned constitution so that they were able to send troops to iraq, now if he's just able to gain entry into the permanent counsil and turn the self defense force back into an army; he will surely be written favourably into history which is what all asian politicians are after.

there is really no good reason for anyone to support japan on this matter.. unless of course u favour american supremacy over the world or the reemergence of japanese nationalism.

the question should really be... which countries should be kicked out? in the future, the world will look very diff (if it still exists), and it would make no sense that the "old powers" (cough* france/uk ) still remain on the counsel

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[Fukui]

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[frozen_chicken]

we shouldnt look on the past for the future, because, people can change and if we see that then the world would be a happier looking on past judgements means that you are one minded.

[zbeeblebrox]

they want to become a member because of the region that they are in. they want secruity from china and north korea. so i say let them.
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[Fukui]