Why is Gundam Seed such a popular hit?

kaykay · Shogun Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 2622 Location: Cali

well GS has better animation cuz it's newer.....GW was created like in 1997. it's old and is still considered to be a hit classic that's giving GS a run for its money. GW is good for its time but it's amazing how it's still so popular today...that's wat makes a good anime..how it's memorable.
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BurstAngelX13A · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject:

yeah well Evangelion was made in 1997, considered a hit classic, and its better than both GS and GW (except for the OSTs, they're boringly boring). Anyways they made Gundam Seed to knock all the other gundam series off the chart, and it did (well, except for ye nerds who dedicated themselves to Wing). Go SEED!!
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jckool · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:

aww come on kaykay, you made one about seed now? =(

well lets see, i guess it's because the giant invincible gundams appeal to kids and what not, just ask my 11 year old brother, thinks anything other than freedom crushing 50 grunts is stupid and boring.. -__-"...

oh and kaiser, 8th ms team was good =),... for one thing it showed that gundams arent that much superior to normal mobile suits.. though the apalsalus or something was like.. -_____-" ... worst gundam series ever? the one 0081. i think that was what it was called... well the one with this kid named something but he goes BERNIEEE BERNIEEE BERNIEEE UGH I CANT STAND THAT KID... anyway, i'm going off topic again.. ITS NOT MY FAULT I SWEAR! ...err blame my sig...which i wrote but... =)

okok anyway, what else is there.. lets see, there's lacus, who doesn't like lacus or want to be her =p , beautiful, can sing, kind, caring, has the resolve to accomplish things, will express her opinions.. =) she works somewhat as a role model i guess... kira as the perfect knight, protecting his princess lacus later on, and earlier on fllay... the angst between athrun and kira, having to fight your best friend, being forced to fight him.. that was nice to watch, too bad its gone now, and now instead we have a shinn vs athrun kinda thing, which sucks =/ .. why does athrun ALWAYS end up in a pink/red gundam AND ends up fighting the "main" char of a series.. (and yes shinn was supposed to be the main char of gsd.. not kira.............) oh and right, theres also the sound, its got good music =p

hrm thats enough for now i guess, and i need sleep so =p
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jlb000 · newbie! Joined: Sep 01, 2005 Posts: 13

Frankly its just because I like mecha...any mecha Rolling Eyes

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KamiNoSeigi · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:

Well the gundam series appealed to me as a kid and stuck with me ever since.

And I think that the story has gotten a lot better.
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BurstAngelX13A · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:

jckool · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:39 am Post subject:

k.. i'd quote you but then i'd make my post 2 times as long =p

alright first off, yeah you're probably right about the evagelion stuff, i guess you can say that gundam's graphics havn't evolved much all the way until seed =p, so yeah, thats that. you win that one =(

anyway, ithink you missed my point about the shields, I wasn't talking about the shields grunt suits have, the ones that the gundams have, or the ones that important chars have. in GS for example.. the battle of orb, kira shield is like OMFGWTF IT DOESNT BREAK, i'd much rather call it the plot shield of doom =), its invincible.. everyone run for your lives! ..err unless your opponent is some other important char, and we all get to see how weak a shield really is in GSD, take a look at the zaku's shield athrun had when they were in armory one, one shot from gaia, and its liek gone... and then, the plotshield of doom kicks in, and a few episodes later, at the junius 7 fight, which mind you hes ALSO piloting a zaku, suddenly has a quite invincible shield, beams are suddenly somewhat useless against the zaku!... and then again, in MSG i've seen shields been penetrated easily, and sure positron deflectors can be destroyed, but they were on a grunt suit, of course they'll be destroyed.. they need to promote legend so that it'll make them money for model sales... Mr. Green

see, thats what i DONT like about gsd, our lovely director will do anything for ratings, so it turns into random episodes of showing off a gundam... and well, i guess now we're gonna have an ep of showing off meteor again, "HURRAY REUSED CLIPS"... talk about reused clips, ugh everytime i see freedom/s-f shoot its railgun it pisses me off, its so obviously reused its not funny. and i guess you agree with me on the kira's attitude problem, you just have a better explanation for it... i just dont like the way he acts, goes from crybaby to this guy who thinks hes God, honestly, take a look at his reactions when someone DODGES his shot, hes like *SHOCK*... sigh, WAAAYYYY too cocky. oh right, and on the unrealisitc survival part, a bullet isn't that hard to live through, as long as it doesnt really hit you in a critical area... thats what i think anyway =p, i'm no gun expert so.. =p..

but then again, you compare it to SEED, in which kira has his entire ms blow up, lives through it, athrun getting hit by an explosion, (you know, by aegis's self destruct explosion..) , and then we have mwu who survives A LOHENGRIN... yes we know it was for ratings, but talk about unrealistic, andrew bartfeld that also survives a ms exploding, (Also for ratings, but yeah.) Kira surviving when freedom gets stabbed and blows up, athrun surviving when his gouf does the same... And then, if the director doesnt' like a certain person, he'll have a bad luck charm around him , i swear. take a look at yuna/jona, whatever youwanna call him, *attacks minerva*...2 seconds later, FREEDOM SHOWS UP to stop you, wants to marry cagalli, freedom pwns you, attacks minerva again, freedom shows up to stop you, along with impulse blowing up the fleet you were commanding, and then, a few episodes later, he gets the living crap beaten out of him by cagalli/orb soldiers, and then an episode after he gets punched, a damaged ms falls on him and probably kills him, honestly, talk about bad luck.. another guy with it is Djibril, anywhere he goes the ppl will die, and with neo's case we can CLEARLY see that the girty lue had a plot shield protecting it, it goes from a ship that can attack plant, steal gundams all by itself (why? cause mwu was on it.), to getting about 10-20 seconds of screentime, and then blowing up... our director is horribly biased... to have a good series you need a good director you know =p

Edit: Woah... i wrote a rant longer tahn you! thats 2 rants in a day! wow i'm amazed at myself lol
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kaykay · Shogun Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 2622 Location: Cali

ZGMF> i don't think evangelian's animation is better now worse than GW....but that's on a personal note.

jckool> i made this thread like a LONG a** time ago.....just never was that popular.

ok i basically didn't read anything cuz i have school work but yea i'll read it later.....just saw a few posts that i decided to respond to.
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Granzon · Conscript Joined: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 143

ZGMF-X13A: 08th MS team was actually released early 1996, not 1997, as you've mentioned. Besides, what jckool meant when the older series were more realistic, was that there was no way that a gundam was overpowered way back then. Each unit had its pros and cons and wasn't a one-man army.

Also, each gundam came from one place, which explains where they came from. In SEED Destiny, however, whenever a main char's who's not in the military, such as kira gets his gundam totaled, he gets a totally new gundam complete with DRAGOONS and stuff that's kinda meant to be top-secret from people who aren't really connected to ZAFT.

When it comes to unit fights, before the end of a SEED series, Kira's or Athrun's gundam just gets a few scratches here and there, nothing a little bit of paint won't fix, as well as shields that never crumble unless a more powerful unit piloted by another main char comes along. In the older series tho, there was always a chance that a unit's pieces would crumble away from the impact of the attack, and the pilot actually had to dodge to keep their shields or units intact, which meant that there wasn't that big a gap between a regular MS and a gundam if the pilots were equal in skill, and the battles were more evenly matched compared to one uber gundam letting loose its rail guns on everything and suddenly, all the other pilots went from half-decent to downright crap, as they were shot through a non-vital part, and couldn't move anymore.

As for the artwork, what exactly do you mean, by renewed? They look almost like a carbon copy of the old versions, except that they looked like hybrids of Zakus, but otherwise, they're basically the same. Then again, the artwork is basically Kunio Okawara's style, which basically reflected how the art style was in the 80's, and was most familiar to the original fans of gundam. This then meant that the art style was preserved possibly out of fear of alienating the gundam fans if the artwork was changed.

What's so bad about character development, anyway? It's highly likely that the lack of character development is the main reason that Shinn's such a big stupid moron and wholly deserves to die unless he matures. also, keep in mind that Kira is basically a rip-off of the old Amuro Ray from mobile suit gundam. At the start, he was just as hesitant as Kira, but probably didn't cry that much, and in the end, he's the perfect knight who can pull a trigger without much problems.

With your little rant about fanservice, the old gundam series were catering more to the current fans, who cared more about the gundam battles and the character development than fanservice, which indicated at the quality of the stories being told, and showed that fanservice isn't necessary to keep a viewer glued to their seat if the anime's done right.

Well, whatever, I'll leave this for now, but seriously, ZGMF-X13A, it sounds a bit like you only see the series for the artwork, which is a lot like going to a forest for the trees. This basically shuts out any possibility of you enjoying the series if you opened your mind a little more. I felt the same way after watching ZZ gundam after ages of watching SEED, X and Wing, but if you basically watch the anime for everything but the artwork, then there's not much reason to hate the series.

BurstAngelX13A · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject:

Oh whatever I'm too lazy to care anymore. Well, I don't feel like watching a .series that looks way too weird even if it has a great story. And actually, I don't really HATE the series, it just gets kinda boring watching some guys with odd hair......
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jckool · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:20 am Post subject:

BurstAngelX13A · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:

Actually I found out that some anime I like doesn't have decent animation. For Witch Hunter, it's REALLY slow and REALLY BORING at times, but the action seems to make up for it. For Initial D, self-explanotory, but the racing makes up for it. SEED/Destiny has cool animation, but an AMZNGLY large amount of reused animation, which annoys me alot....but the content of the whole thing seems to keep me watching..........ah well I'm drugged
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Mylz666 · newbie! Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 5

haha, the only gundam series I didn't like was gundam wing, I don't really know why but I just didn't like it, and perhaps about everyone liking gundam seed is that it has more "style" then the other gundams, good animation [which is because it's newer, ect] and better music and interesting battle scenes.

if you want to complain about re-used scenes.. look at gundam wing, I haven't seen it in years, but I think I remember re-used scenes galore.
I don't mind the re-used scenes for launching because.. think about it, how many differant ways are they going to launch a gundam.

and I read something about the main characters shields being uber and what not, but isn't that because gundams have differant arsenal and an amazing more amount of armor then the generic mobile suits? plus it adds to the action, what kind of shield would it be if kira blocked 2 shots from a gun and then it broke, I dunno. I'm ranting on about nothing really Very Happy