School Days

Rick_battosai · Conscript Joined: May 20, 2006 Posts: 130 Location: canada

God dammit XENO.lol

this is why i said i didnt want to debate.i knew that the slightest statement like "was uncalled for" would bring out a 2 paragraph debate.lol

well here goes XENO.

1.there is nothing wrong with happy endings,just because it ends happy doesint make it "cheezy" or "bad" or "lame".im shure you watched your share of happy endings and liked it.It brings posotive affect on people and not negative ones.you say it like evrything on tv is happy and doesint show cruelty,wich is not the case and brings me to my next point.

2.what are you talking about when you say that poeple are not aware of lifes cruelty.maybe this is the first in anime but since you and i live in north america you should know that our media dosent show nothing but trajic and violence.american tv shows and movies always tend to sell sex drugs and violence on tv.so many things on tv talk about depression and and other negative crap.why do you think i watch anime?to get away from all the crap we see nowadays on tv.HELLO WE DONT NEED THAT KINDA OF CRAP IN ANIME TOO.lol Wich is why we dont need to see this to get an idea of lifes cruelty.WE GET IT.(plus this series was a litle exagerated and poeple dont have to worry about that scenario lol).

3.enyway anime is fine with me the way it is right now and i think that they should do the same thing theyve been doing till now.they should NOT stop romantic comedies with happy endings and should NOT increase more of these so called "eye openers" with trajedy.I think ITs ok to have these trajic endings once in a while but you shouldent go and make a huge deal about how THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE AND THAT WE NEED MORE OF THEM.I think its good to have more positive effects on people then negative ones.

DAMN.lol i hate typing its so long thats why i didnt want to debate.enyway this is my view point.

Finaly,all im saying is that some people like it some dont but we shouldint make a big deal about it and i dont think it should have a major impact on anime.(at least i hope not.)

So I REPEAT: im not looking for debate and im not questioning why you like it or not,i just want to know how many people didnt like it.

xenocrisis0153 · Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:18 am Post subject:

I know you don't want to debate, and it's not my intention, but an anime like this IS rare and it should be celebrated for doing something not so common. Like you said, there are plenty of other happy anime, why do you have to rag on this one? The plain and simple of it is... if you don't like it, fine, move on to the next one.

hurricanedra · Conscript Joined: Jan 30, 2007 Posts: 126

Wow. Interesting.
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xenocrisis0153 · Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:16 am Post subject:

hurricanedra · Conscript Joined: Jan 30, 2007 Posts: 126

Rick_battosai · Conscript Joined: May 20, 2006 Posts: 130 Location: canada

XENO

i just want to make it clear that im not making a big deal of this series like you said i was.i was just explaining myself since you didnt understand what i meant by "uncalled for".

And i dont feel threatened by this series at all.thats exactly why im saying that this shoudint be a big deal.

and for your information i do know a thing or 2 about lifes downsides and lived throug them.im 20 by the way.and people have different situations not all people go throu life the same way.so this "lesson"doesint really apply for evryone. so you really cant say what life is and isint cause whats a reality for some are not for others.so ya,i could also say life IS roses and happy ever afters too.

first off,teenage suicide is common evrywhere.and i dont think there is a need to show it in anime to target japanese youths especially.and certain things about average relationships and other things that happen to teenagers in america doesint really mean it applies to japan(plaese, american youths switch parteners like they switch underware but in japan alot of women dont even kiss till their married.lol again not evryone).there is a pretty big cultural difference.check wikipedia the crime rate in japan is exponentialy lower then the states.and i could mention other facts but the point is... IT just comes down to this:

IS this really that important.

you say yes(epic even).I say no.you think its necessary and of importance.I think its unecessary and wont really do much to help the world.you think its a great touch in this genre cause it faces reality.I think that this kinda of situation isint necessarily a reality.its only a reality for some.like i said its different for evryone.and most people dont want to see this in a romantic comedy.(and japans most popular genres for otaku ARE romantic comedies.cause of the chicks and fanservice.)

so basicly we dont need to really debate.i just summed up in this tiny paragraph what we disagre on.so lets leave it at that.YOU LIKE and I DONT.(for X REASONS)

I know i might have missed some points but i didnt feel like replying to all those counter points.lol sry i just wanted to clear some stuff.im just trying to summarise as much as possible in short texts(so far not working.lol)

SO AGAIN IM not making a big deal.i was just explaining myself since you got me in to this by making me explain myself and share my viewpoint.But let me say that you do have excelent points and i understand completely why you liked it.I just didnt and wanted to know if there were more people who didnt.and im expecting to cause i could see how this probably pissed alot of people off.lol

v-boi2002 · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:59 am Post subject:

4chan, nyron~
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Molenir · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject:

Rick_battosai · Conscript Joined: May 20, 2006 Posts: 130 Location: canada

lol.thats exactly what I did.

I saw the first 4 or 5 eps.I kinda saw that it wasent gona go that great so i fast fowarded through the eps ,basicly the highlights, to get an idea of were it was going.then i came across the end and watched ep 12.and it only added to the fire.but im not that angry cause i didnt really waste my time watching it to get disapointed later.(lol kind of dodged a bullet)

Its exactly like you said and what i was trying to say.We dont need to see this in anime cause we could see it in other places.anime is for entertainment and I really dont think this is something thats more then a one time watch.Like someone stated before: "I dont think i could handle more of these endings"lol .

so someone out there also didnt like it from the start even before the ending .good to know im not the only one.lol

I just wana add that im not judging the people who liked it,but is this really something people would like to see more of in anime?

uniform · Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:28 am Post subject:

I really couldn't help but feel sympathetic towards the three lead characters in this show. Reading many threads spanning multiple forums I find dislike of Makoto to be a popular stance, which isn't surprising considering his self-centered attitude for the majority of the series. What people need to keep in mind is that these are kids being thrown into very adult situations. To expect a Kid like Makoto to do the Adult thing in that situation is a bit of a stretch. If everyone I met throughout my own school days who thought everything revolved around them were to come to some tragic fate, well, my schools would have been very empty places. A character that received the ultimate punishment for having the negative traits many school kids possess. Personally I felt sorrow by his death. No one on this show deserved death, no matter what childish attitudes or mistakes they made.

Sekai started off this ride as being the most in the wrong. She basically manipulated several people to get close to what she wanted. Why in the World she does this instead of being straightforward with who she likes is simple. Just like Makoto, she's a kid. As extroverted as she is, she's shy and scared of rejection like any kid would be. The actions she took seemed to be the safe alternative. It was pointed out several times throughout the series that she has mental issues, how she handled Makoto's rejection of her and her Pregnancy came as no surprise to me. I guess you could say the rejection could be Karma for her deceitful actions. I really felt bad for her in the end, as everything going right for her in the beginning took a turn to horribly wrong. For someone with issues this is the end of the line. It's so unfortunate that this was Sekai's breaking point.

Once again, like Haruka Suzumiya, my deepest sympathy was toward the character that basically got (expletive) on by life. Kotonoha, a character already insecure and finally able to slowly come out of her shell thanks to making friends, only to have things turn out worse than had she never had any in the first place. The other characters had someone there for them when something went wrong, where Kotonoha truly had no one. Abandoned by those she thought were her only friends, treated like dirt by the rest of her school peers. This all resulted in her descent into insanity. Watching her in empty eyes mode talking to herself alone or getting abused when not alone just broke my heart. For me this was the greatest tragedy of the show.

In the end I was far from happy at the result, yet at the same time I thought it was far from bad. They wanted to send a crystal clear message with the ending, and a shock value ending is something they figured would really stick in the minds of the target audience. If former friends resorting to brutal murder doesn't send the message that people are not objects to be taken advantage of, I don't know what would. I might add the most heart breaking moment for me would have to be following the credits when we get Makoto's opening from the beginning of the series when he talks about the girl he likes, as we're shown the students going about their lives minus the three main characters ending in Makoto's cell laying on that bench where the three first had lunch.

Thank you Anime-Source for introducing me to School Days. It was a ride I won't soon forget.

SleepyLafiel · Conscript Joined: Nov 16, 2002 Posts: 152 Location: Beh

I'm sorry, but this series was mediocre at best. I'm not sure if anyone here is well versed in cinema, but this kind of stuff has been done before, sans the dragged out 4+ hour length. Watching this was like watching Crash (and yes, I know it won the Academy Award for Best Picture that year, but look at the nominees and look up how many people disagreed with the result... almost near unanimous agreement that no movie should have won that year)... exaggerated situations manipulated in methods close to a soap opera, and then ending with a sensationalistic shock.

Didn't you guys watch Higurashi already? With that series being out earlier (both the game and the anime), how can people even heap praise upon this? It is in no way avant garde, and all I saw in it was a bunch of misogynistic pandering by characters that stayed stuck in their shells throughout. Ooo it happens in real life! Well... exactly. It's nothing new. CSI, that happens in real life too. ER/Grey's Anatomy... that happens in real life. Love inspired murders/homicide... I'm sure you can read all about that on any given day off CNN.

With that much source material available, it's more shocking that they couldn't come up with something better, especially considering that the source material for this particular series was an ADULT PORN GAME THAT HAD THREE DIFFERENT MURDER/HOMICIDE/KILLING ENDINGS in addition to TWENTY TWO OTHER ENDINGS. It was already intended for an adult audience, and given the way anime works in Japan (cable, PPV, late night), it's very unlikely that the creators even had the intention of making SD a lesson to the young.

The ending was just idiotic and very poorly done. Spoilers: Mainly, the murder didn't feel natural. It just sort of... happened, and if you actually look at the "motivation," it's a pretty damn far stretch. She didn't have an abortion, and honestly, the guy has been like that the entire series, so for her to snap the way she did felt like a complete cop out by the creators, and felt tacked on just so they can get a rise out of the preteen idiots that consider this "art."

And for those of you debating whether or not having a "bad" ending should be made more standard... come on now. I tend to agree with the camp that in real life, bad guys win, and if anime ever wants to obtain "art" status, it'll follow in the path of movies and be more diverse in the way it ends. Ironically though, H-series tend to portray this aspect of storytelling a little better, but more likely than not, it's trying to be sensationalistic rather than an altruistic lesson to the young people of Japan. The bottom line is... don't read so much into this anime. It's a pile, and there are so many better things out there to watch. If you want a sad/unhappy ending, there's plenty of Korean melodrama movies/tv series out there that tells a better story. But whatever... it's 4 hours I'll never get back, just glad I watched it in the time between Claymore (pretty good until the end) and downloading Gurren Lagann.

Kind of reminds me of the KGNE controversy back in the day... ahhh good times.[/spoiler]

xenocrisis0153 · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:07 am Post subject:

sukebesama · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject:

Okay, so... back to School Days...

I liked the game! Very Happy

Faraz · A-Source Staff Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 343

I abslutely hated this anime as apparant from my review and a score of 4 which was higher than it deserved now that I think about it. I'm just so glad to see so many people agree with me to have forced this piece of [bleep] into the #15 spot among the worst reviewed animes on this website.

My current theory on Xeno's in-depth review and score is that he actually works for TNK Studio. Laughing