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I like this manga. I like the twisted stuff. I like how it comes and goes between real things and fantasy. I like how they go into realigion and all of that stuff. What I don't like is the graphics are aviestly very old and the colors need to be retouched. But I do like the evangelions and the angels just the colors are a little hollow. I really like the manga too.
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 135 Location: London, UK
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:10 am Post subject:
I have no problems with the colour. It may not be as super-bright as some of today's anime, but you have to remember that it is over 10 years old now. Besides, if it got much brighter than it already is then the colours would just be verging on surreal. To add to its existing surrealness, that is. >_> _________________
Saki Kasukabe wrote:
And what is it with their conversations? "Did you know that? Did you know about this? You didn't? Really?" That's not a conversation! It's just a bragging tournament!
Joined: Aug 05, 2005 Posts: 3228 Location: Jack lives here
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:33 am Post subject:
the music stuck out. love it. very dynamic. i couldnt imagine watching an EVA vs Angel scene without hearing that score blaring over the top.
When i first watched NGE i was pretty much new to anime so i watched it without any notion of anime conventions or anything. i treated it like any other show not even necessarily animated. What really struck me was the regular use of long takes, sometimes static, always without any non-diagetic music often without dialogue and with minimal action. Sequences like Shinji walking to school behind his friends or Rei and Asuka riding an elevator or Shinji on the train. Stuff like this never happened on normal television. Time was money. things had to be happening! there had to be movement and an immediacy! tension at the very least.
i also really liked the OP at the time although nowadays its one of the things i look back to and think 'wow my music tastes sure used to be different ^^'. the watery rendition of Fly Me to the Moon + slight Japanese accent should suck by all accounts but it actually works very well for me. it ends the show with a very nice touch.
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 135 Location: London, UK
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject:
Actually one of the main things I love about NGE is how they adapted to their budget cuts in ways that actually *helped* the anime. That scene with Rei and Asuka in the lift is frikkin' genius, because by the time Rei finally speaks up, you're actually feeling personally uncomfortable just WATCHING it. Then, for example, in the 26th episode when the pencil crayons and Copic markers come out, it's when they're talking about perceptions of reality - how eveything we see is not real, just an image. That is pure class right there, and the sort of imagination I've still yet to see reproduced in any other anime since. _________________
Saki Kasukabe wrote:
And what is it with their conversations? "Did you know that? Did you know about this? You didn't? Really?" That's not a conversation! It's just a bragging tournament!
Actually one of the main things I love about NGE is how they adapted to their budget cuts in ways that actually *helped* the anime. That scene with Rei and Asuka in the lift is frikkin' genius, because by the time Rei finally speaks up, you're actually feeling personally uncomfortable just WATCHING it. Then, for example, in the 26th episode when the pencil crayons and Copic markers come out, it's when they're talking about perceptions of reality - how eveything we see is not real, just an image. That is pure class right there, and the sort of imagination I've still yet to see reproduced in any other anime since.
Joined: Sep 19, 2005 Posts: 268 Location: Between Heaven and Hell in a place called Earth
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject:
That's exactly why they say that NGE is the work of a genius. There's no other anime like it even today as far as I know _________________ Reality is wrong.
Dreams are for real.
Make your own path according to your dreams.
I liked the series, it was actually one of the first that I watched. For a while I was really confused and frustrated with the last two episodes, but after watching it a couple more times and thinking about it, it made sense. I can totally understand how people could dislike it though, it seems to be one of those series that people just love or hate.
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 135 Location: London, UK
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:39 am Post subject:
The manga did indeed come after the anime, but I wouldn't call it a lot 'darker'. The only darker bit I can think of is that Touji actually dies...most of it is very similar if not identical. _________________
Saki Kasukabe wrote:
And what is it with their conversations? "Did you know that? Did you know about this? You didn't? Really?" That's not a conversation! It's just a bragging tournament!
Joined: Sep 19, 2005 Posts: 268 Location: Between Heaven and Hell in a place called Earth
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject:
Ive never read the manga so I don't have an opinion in there, but this is one of the series that first it was the anime and then was the manga huh? Weird, I haven't known many mangas that were made after the anime (usually is in reverse.) _________________ Reality is wrong.
Dreams are for real.
Make your own path according to your dreams.
Joined: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Midland, travelling as the Century Slayer
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:03 am Post subject:
Darksword wrote:
Weird, I haven't known many mangas that were made after the anime (usually is in reverse.)
Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop (and its sequel), Samurai Champloo...
Wait, you haven't read any of them because they suck, right???
But I hated the Champloo anime anyway! I did read 61 stages of NGE manga, though
I am going to watch episode 22, the Director's Cut soon! Should I be warned of anything? Am I going to become one of those confused fanboys who start sending Anno threat letters? From what I have read from this forum, some of the more mature anime viewers were willing to accept the final episodes. On the other hand, anime purists obsessed with fan service seem to enjoy End of Evangelion more. I wonder what will I become?
I thought episode 20 (I think) was disturbing, when it ended with Misato groaning in bed with Kaji. However, I must say it was an effective use of saving money on the animation. The same scene remained for almost a minute! I guess that parallels that reference some of you guys make to the Asuka/Rei elevator scene.
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 135 Location: London, UK
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:10 am Post subject:
Ohhhh I love the Director's Cut of episode 22. It's quite possibly the most worthwhile bit of all the director's cuts. Pretty damn extensive additions to the 'Mind Rape' scene, and all very, very, VERY fucked up. Awesomeness.
And those supposed 'purists' who think the last two episodes of the TV series are deathnote-worthy are just pathetic. You can prefer one ending or the other; but to judge the TV ending as being downright terrible and unworthy of existence is merely, in my opinion, an example of someone with a limited perspective that is unable to accept anything drawn from outside the box. _________________
Saki Kasukabe wrote:
And what is it with their conversations? "Did you know that? Did you know about this? You didn't? Really?" That's not a conversation! It's just a bragging tournament!
Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 65 Location: Swimming in the river Lethe
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:53 am Post subject:
stokerino wrote:
And those supposed 'purists' who think the last two episodes of the TV series are deathnote-worthy are just pathetic. You can prefer one ending or the other; but to judge the TV ending as being downright terrible and unworthy of existence is merely, in my opinion, an example of someone with a limited perspective that is unable to accept anything drawn from outside the box.
Those last two episodes of the TV series were the product of a deficient budget. It's not that they shouldn't exist, but rather that they were never intented to be created as they were. Why do you think that End of Evangelion is broken into two episodes, numbered 25 and 26?
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