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I'd vote Ryuugan on this one. Both have predictive capabilities. However, the enhanced perception afforded by the ryuugan may be enough to negate the hynoptic powers of the sharigan. That's a pretty big "maybe". But in addition to that, we've seen that ryuugan users can see and discern the flow of energy around them, allowing them to manipulate it. For example, Shin was able to take a chi-based electrical strike dead-on by shifting the flow of energy through his body.
Hmm skipped a few post, but interesting question. I think it depends on what level the Sharingan is, but i think it will win since its ability to predict your opponents attacks/movements.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:49 am Post subject:
Itachi-kun wrote:
Ryuugan would definately win. For instance, if Itachi were to fight Shin (I'm picking these two because they seem to be the masters of their respective styles) Shin would be able to see into the future and see if Itachi would try to do anything. Shin could then think of a way around that (I don't know how though) and counter attack. So with all likely hood Shin would win.
Not quite.
Seeing that Shin could see the future, he could make a battle plan, but when Itachi sees what he's already planned, he would counter it, then the battle plan wouldn't work. So either character can't use a plan since they can see eachothers plans.
The only way of winning is fighting normally. The future seeing kind of cancels eachother out so it's practically fighting with their own powers, but the Sharingan has another technique. It can copy moves so if Shin came up with a genius technique, Itachi could use it back at him, or use it before him since he can also see the technique before hand. Shin on the other hand can't copy Itachi's moves, so it gives the Sharingan the upper hand there.
Itachi can only use that mind trick sharingan thing. With the 72 hours of torture. Shin could see it coming, but could he stop it?
maybe they would both just use their powers to see that they would both be battling for an eternity and have some other characters fight for them or call the whole thing off.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:28 pm Post subject:
gareth862 wrote:
maybe they would both just use their powers to see that they would both be battling for an eternity and have some other characters fight for them or call the whole thing off.
If you call more characters to fight, the Sharingan has more moves to copy and use.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:
Also the user has to be part of the move. If it was Itachi using the sharingan then it would be a whole new story. But the users of the techniques is also a huge role in the move. _________________ Gaze into the stars, reach for the heavens, with the wind blowing beneath you, and the Sun behind your back, you can become one with destiny.
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One thing we're forgetting is that both techniques also carry weaknesses. It's probably safe money to compare those as well.
Itachi's level of the sharigan (I'm not even going to try and spell it correctly) causes his eyes to degrade and eventually go blind. Meanwhile, Shin's ryuugan caused him to go insane due to his minds inability to handle the vast possibilities of the future (although, this may have also been caused by his relationship with his sister). In theory, Shin could just wait out Itachi until he goes blind or Itachi could not bother with expanding chakra at all and just goad Shin into hurting himself.
However, Itachi v. Shin may be an unfair venue to compare sharigan v. ryuugan. After all, Naruto characters in general have much more destructive capability than Tenjou Tenge characters.
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:39 am Post subject:
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Not quite.
Seeing that Shin could see the future, he could make a battle plan, but when Itachi sees what he's already planned, he would counter it, then the battle plan wouldn't work. So either character can't use a plan since they can see eachothers plans.
The only way of winning is fighting normally. The future seeing kind of cancels eachother out so it's practically fighting with their own powers, but the Sharingan has another technique. It can copy moves so if Shin came up with a genius technique, Itachi could use it back at him, or use it before him since he can also see the technique before hand. Shin on the other hand can't copy Itachi's moves, so it gives the Sharingan the upper hand there.
um the sharingan can't predict the future only estimate a person's movements. Also the sharingan can copy jutsus, and physical abilities. Itachi wouldnt' be able to copy something like the forged needle, since it requires a different kind of energy.
1ce wrote:
IF they had a match the ryuuken would think you could win, but it won't think about the power of the sharingan since its unpredictable. The moves you do can be foreseen. Assuming that the Ryuuken tells you where the person is moving, the Sharingan can tell what the next move you're doing and dodge.
Confusing, but it seems the foreseeing technique is better with the Sharingan since it predicts moves on the spot.
um that's exactly what the Ryuugen does but to a much better degree than the sharingan. The Ryuugen makes it look like the person is moving in slow motion, that's how powerful its ability is. Speed doesn't even become an issue anymore. The sharingan at best gives an estimate of a person's moves. Plus the Ryuugen gives off a terror effect where the person would see their own death. When comparing eye abilites i would say they're both just about equal .
Elvin wrote:
itachi vs. shin, itachi would win, he's a ninja while shin is only a highschool senior (psycho, yes, but that only takes you so far in a fight). itachi has his ninja techniques, some of which shin probably can't avoid. but if it were two normal people given the two seperate eyes, ryuugan would probably come out on top (knowing is better than predicting ), given that the people have mastered them.
Shin also has Reiki and the Forged Needle attack. He's also fast enough to rip someone's hands off without them noticing
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:17 am Post subject:
Well it's not like Itachi don't know how to fight considering he should now like how many justsus now that should be a + for him. And Sasukes eye are inferior to Itachi so Im guessing he can follow movements way better with his eyes then Sasuke can. Itachi is also more calm and collected then Shin so if they were to fight I'd think Itachi would win and how do you predict no if I look into his eyes I'll feel incredible pain? It's not like Itachi would try to hit him with his fist since that is something you can see while predicting the furure or seeing the future but how do you notice the eye thing that Itachi do then if you don't know about it?
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject:
Shin saw the momemt of his death several weeks ahead. Not only that the Ryuugen allows him to reconstruct images of the past. So its very possible for him to know about the Mange Sharingan or any other technique ahead of time. Also the Ryuugen has the terror effect which makes the opponent see their own death. Which is seen when you look into the eyes, it would also distract the opponent long enough for him to kill them.
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), given that the people have mastered them.
