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CGY Jigoku Sensei

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| inuyasha101 wrote: |
| comunists=intending to make every one equal, but then realize how much power they have and become greedy and then take over |
Well, I just said that earlier... It's the human nature that ruined the perfect idea... |
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jjang Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 56
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| 1ce wrote: |
| CGY wrote: |
| Excuse me! I personally think communism is not BAD! I think a world well everybody is equal in everything is a paradise! |
Well you and I are two different people then. Have you seen what communism has done to some countries? Look what happaned to Korea!
You think Korea is a paradise?
[No offense to any Koreans or anything] |
yeah your right, north korea is in a pretty bad condition but south korea just doesnt have jack to protect themselves. by the way im korean and live in south korea. |
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pyrorecca ask for custom rank!

Joined: Sep 03, 2005 Posts: 3412 Location: In your refrigerator, eating your food
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
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I think the only country that can successfully pull off communism is japan cuz the morals of communism r alredy dere. Like honor, pride & courtesy & sacrifice.
China isn't really communist....more like fascist.
of course smurfs r communist!! U can tell rite from hearing theme song!! "....bright & gay......lalallalalalallala" _________________ [img:309:200:9b3695521e]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8583/dobedobedojs0.jpg[/img:9b3695521e] |
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davidstillwell Heimin (Commoner)

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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Communist is good? Daym soon like at north korea half thier people are starving to deatha nd the president is concerced on makin Flippin nukes just for the heck of it |
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the_underdog Gokenin Samurai

Joined: Mar 13, 2005 Posts: 1042 Location: USA....dammit
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| davidstillwell wrote: |
| Communist is good? Daym soon like at north korea half thier people are starving to deatha nd the president is concerced on makin Flippin nukes just for the heck of it |
with propper leadership communism could be benificial. so far there isn't an example. They tend to get corrupted by the power and turn into the horrible leaders we've seen in the past. |
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L4mE Jikan Samurai

Joined: Jul 10, 2005 Posts: 913 Location: Net0
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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well a man ego does can destroy a country even it is their home land
I think communism is not bad
it is just as iyunasha101 said
so we need to take control of our ego first then we could take control of other |
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ZerosEdge Ronin Samurai

Joined: Jun 15, 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Florida, but originally from Philippines
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Smurf's dont live in the same house! _________________ I am teh whit3 mag3! I p1ck up peoplez with teh owwziz and the boo8oos!
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CGY Jigoku Sensei

Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 13130 Location: The depth of hell...
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, we should make a poll, see how many people hate communism... |
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fuglymutt Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 55
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| 1ce wrote: |
| CGY wrote: |
| ... Why does everyone hate communism so bad... |
Because communism is bad and isn't good for most nations. It may be good for some, but no idea's pop into my mind at the current moment. |
how many nations are actually communist? only vietnam and north korea, even china is only communist by name |
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gufck newbie!

Joined: Aug 26, 2005 Posts: 39 Location: hell
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| yes the smurfs are communists |
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ladyarakune Daimyo

Joined: Jun 22, 2005 Posts: 1569 Location: wating for azumanga daioh reload...
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| CGY wrote: |
| Ah, we should make a poll, see how many people hate communism... |
well, most people dont know what communism is, its been explained here, but most people just think its some weird anarchy thing _________________ CAIN is MY whore. touch him and die.
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irakih Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: Apr 25, 2005 Posts: 536
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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hmm
i have nothing against communism
in fact... i think it's one of the most wonderful idealistic theories
(i've always like Marx's writings anyway)
though it's flawed in practice, cuz i don't think it accounts for human nature... (what are the chances of ppl willing to sacrifice themselves for an ideology that's imposed on them?... well.. revolutionlists aside..)... it is not "evil", or "bad"... because the theory is simply flawed (as most are), not evil
and btw
cuba is also a communist country (it's just missing from the list of commies that u ppl came up w/)
as for whether demoncarcy is better than communism....
i see that both are flawed .. but it can't be helped anyways
(so i see them as equal theories)
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while communism is often seen as evil (damn corruption).... i personally don't think the democractic president bush is doing a wonderful job either |
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sayoku EviL DoLL

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 8164 Location: la la land
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:13 am Post subject: |
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well personally i dont like changing, even though bush is dont doing a good job, but america does have the freedom of speech. im not saying communist countries dont, but it also depends on the alttitude of governent towards people. remember there was some kind of evolution in china (not chinese, dont remember), the government tried to renew everything, and caused people to lose their original heritage, and people were terrorised and prosecuted for protesting. _________________ "Look at me, with my pretty bracelet and tiara... I'm a fuckin' princess!"
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irakih Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: Apr 25, 2005 Posts: 536
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| sayoku wrote: |
| well personally i dont like changing, even though bush is dont doing a good job, but america does have the freedom of speech. im not saying communist countries dont, but it also depends on the alttitude of governent towards people. remember there was some kind of evolution in china (not chinese, dont remember), the government tried to renew everything, and caused people to lose their original heritage, and people were terrorised and prosecuted for protesting. |
revolution often involves such tactics anyways
some leaders like to create an impression that they are different (while i don't see how that implies "better"... but i guess... they try to do so..?) by changing everything (thus leads to resistance, which then will force either another war or suppression, etc etc)... o well
ya... the values of democracy and communism are different... no arguments there
better off comparing communism with capitalism tho... (since most democracies are capitalists anyways)
hmm
capitalism basically enforces individualism and how everybody should look out for themslves (ex. ppl work to increase their own savings...)
but communism/socialism takes the view of ppl as a group ... instead of individuals...
so it makes sense that individual rights are often placed w/ lesser value..
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so to condemn communism because it doesn't respect individual rights doesn't make sense because ... it isn't the aim of communism at all...
communism (from what i understand of anyways) is looking out for the entire group as a whole... (hence all the "sharing" and such)
unless u see individual rights as the highest value... then... *shrug*? |
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sayoku EviL DoLL

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 8164 Location: la la land
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: |
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i wouldnt know coz ive never been to a communism country or associated with a communist, but if australia now gonna turn communist, i would definitely against it, coz i like how it is now. of coz the aus govern have their faults, and id say heaps of faults, but what doesnt? and perhaps i dont like sharing, and i dont particualrly like politics, being a politician, you just cant impress everyone. _________________ "Look at me, with my pretty bracelet and tiara... I'm a fuckin' princess!"
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