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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:01 pm    Post subject: Bandai cracks down on Piracy Reply with quote

On Bandai website:

http://www.bandai-ent.com/news/pr.cfm?id=81

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Bandai Entertainment Cracks Down on DVD Piracy and
Intellectual Property Infringement


Cypress, CA (July 7, 2004) - Bandai Entertainment announced today that it has served lawsuits against several retailers for engaging in the duplication, importation, distribution, and/or sale of unauthorized merchandise infringing upon copyrighted and trademarked properties at this year’s Anime Expo convention in Anaheim, California. Defendants in Bandai’s lawsuit include:

Otaku Entertainment, Inc., dba MANGA HOUSE
EJ International, Inc., dba ABCTOY4ME.COM and ANIMECIRCLE.COM
Anime Combo
MTWC Group, Inc., dba Kawaii Anime and Kawaii-Anime.com
John Lo, Inc., dba House of Anime and Houseofanime.com

“The increased proliferation of counterfeit merchandise and DVD piracy of Japanese animated properties has gone on for too long”, states Ken Iyadomi, Executive Vice President of Bandai Entertainment. “The time has come to take a stand against the flood of cheap knockoffs and blatant bootlegs. The vendors who sell pirated merchandise, CDs, and DVDs are causing huge economic losses for legitimate businesses and must be stopped.”

With the full cooperation of all those who participate in the creation and distribution of these products in Japan and elsewhere - Bandai Entertainment aims to aggressively protect its intellectual property rights and licenses through these actions and hopes that these lawsuits will send a clear message to other retailers and distributors that distributing counterfeit or bootleg DVDs and merchandise will not be tolerated.

Consumers and retailers are urged to contact Bandai Entertainment at support@bandai-ent.com to report other distributors suspected of selling counterfeit DVDs and merchandise.


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Bandai Entertainment Inc. is the premier distributor of Japanese animation on DVD home video in North America. The company has distributed notable titles like Mobile Fighter G Gundam, Escaflowne, Cowboy Bebop, and Outlaw Star. Bandai Entertainment Inc. is a subsidiary of Bandai America Inc., who makes the toys for the hit television series, Power Rangers, Digimon, and Mobile Suit Gundam. All U.S. operations are headquartered in a large, ultra-modern facility in Cypress, Calif. Bandai Co., Ltd is the third largest toy company in the world comprising 53 subsidiaries in 18 countries. In addition to toys and children's entertainment, Bandai Co.'s global interests include video game software, multimedia, music and full-length feature films, vending machines, trading cards, candies, and licensed apparel. Bandai Entertainment is headquartered in Cypress, California and additional company and product information is available through our website at www.bandai-ent.com.



Looks like they're finally cracking down on the bootlegs and stuff, frankly I support the crackdown. Fansubs being done for free by fans and for the fans is one thing but when you have bootleggers that come and steal an anime series (and probably some fansubbers' translations) to sell... thats just plain wrong even if you can get the DVD for cheaper.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats suck for those people...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How so? They were ripping off not only the legitimate business of Anime Companies and probably fansubbers as well. They deserved it in my opinion.

I think this is a step in the right direction, cracking down on people who steal and make a profit out of it instead of fansubbers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaiser wrote:
How so? They were ripping off not only the legitimate business of Anime Companies and probably fansubbers as well. They deserved it in my opinion.

I think this is a step in the right direction, cracking down on people who steal and make a profit out of it instead of fansubbers.


NO.. thats not what i meant... i meant it suck to be in their prosition.. not it suck because they don't deserve it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Kaiser. I mostly feel bad for the people who look for a legitimate copy of the series but wind up with a crappy bootleg. Although at times it's blatantly obvious that it's a knock off, a lot of the times the knock off looks like a mirror image of the real thing. This is probably going to turn out like the piracy war, a little too late to really do anything about it. At least they're putting forth the effort and letting legitimate shoppers breathe a little easier.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those people had it coming. First of all, who in thier right mind would even think of even selling pirated items at the EXPO? There must be some true geniuses behind those companies. People that deliberately pirate, copy, and produce knock-offs and sell them for profit should be prosecuted and I salute Bandai for doing so. It's because of these pirating business that cause dvd prices to go higher in the first place. A fansub is onething, but those that take the fansubds and sell them on ebay or at the expos should not be allowed to do so. Didn't the expo have some policy regarding this for its displayers?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I misunderstood you DogEater008,

But ya, I think they deserved what they got. Selling bootlegs at an anime convention when you KNOW anime companies are gonna be there.

By selling bootlegs, they not only take money away from legitimite companies that will support the anime industry but they also hurt the industry (we all want more anime produced right?). This probably also causes the anime dvd prices to be generally higher as well.

It looks like Bandai is actually taking the offensive now by ASKING everyone to report bootleggers.. hehe and email them. This is going to be interesting.

I wonder if other companies will follow suit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaiser wrote:
Sorry I misunderstood you DogEater008,

But ya, I think they deserved what they got. Selling bootlegs at an anime convention when you KNOW anime companies are gonna be there.

By selling bootlegs, they not only take money away from legitimite companies that will support the anime industry but they also hurt the industry (we all want more anime produced right?). This probably also causes the anime dvd prices to be generally higher as well.

It looks like Bandai is actually taking the offensive now by ASKING everyone to report bootleggers.. hehe and email them. This is going to be interesting.

I wonder if other companies will follow suit.


its ok.. it was my fault for not being clear....

hmm.. i wonder what happan to them if Bandai and the other company win....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I support the action too. I bought bootlegs before, and they suck bad in the translation. LEarned my lesson and will never buy another ever! At that time, not having a fast connection to the internet meant downloading fan-sub animes were kinda hard, so non-licensed titles were extremely hard to obtain, so that's where bootleggers come in.... it's not good, I would rather wait till next time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So very tru. The english translations they do are friggin terrible.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup sucks to be them. They deserve it though Fansubs are one thing they're free But ripping off a company for cash by bootlegging is just plain wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, i didn't think we would need a discussion on this - its quite blatantly wrong, and bandai is doing the right thing - and everyone here seems to agree aswell Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i dunno, sure they licensed dvds are better in quaility, subs maybe more correct than the HK or Taiwan DVDs and it does support the actual company but who has the time or money to buy those cuz you probably could be a student in a situation where money is tight (etc.) or don't always have enough money to fork over for a $45(CDN) dvd

I see the HK/Taiwan DVDs as the best available alternative cuz hey its cheaper, (somewhat) is released faster, and hey you can get stuff thats not licensed (at the time or still isn't, like D.C., CCS 2nd Movie, FMwS)


Like come on its either $15CDN (or $8USD) for a HK DVD (can comtain from 3-8 episodes per dvd) or $45CDN for a licensed DVD (Probably best you can get is 3-4 epis)

So lets have your wallet talk for a bit

Think of a 24 Episode anime

HK/Taiwan DVDS: best you can get is the whole series in a box set so roughly 24 episodes with 8 episodes per dvd equals 3 DVDs
$15 CDN * 3 DVDs = $45(most of the time tax is not included, well only in Calgary)

OR LEGIT DVDs: Hmmm... so thats like 24 episodes with maybe 3 or 4 episodes per DVD so

24 episodes / 3 episodes per disc = 8 DVDs * $45CDN = roughly $360 CDN + GST (and PST for all those not in Alberta)

24 episodes / 4 episodes per disc = 6 DVDs * $45CDN = roughly $270 CDN + GST (and PST for all those not in Alberta)

Hm..... $45 CDN or $270 CDN.... thats a pretty hard decision....

I'll let you decide
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be more than willing to pay money for 100% legit anime dvd's. Especially since I only buy the ones that I truly do like, so I'm not just throwing out heaps of money all over the place.
Plus, I download and watch tons of anime, so it's sorta like paying back for all my freebie's. I'd rather give money to support those that create the anime than those that jack off subs and try to profit themselves.

Props to Bandai, that was a good move.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I'm a big supporter of fansubs, I cannot stand people ripping off anime studios of what they rightfully deserve. If everyone started buying bootlegs you know what would happen? Sure maybe you get some cheap DVDs that are somewhat decent but you wouldn't see anymore new anime coming out because no anime studio would be making any money and is that what we want?

Not to mention bootleggers either have crappy english subtiles or they steal fansubbers' translations.

Bootleggers and those who support bootlegging hurt the anime industry.

I hope all the other major companies follow suit.
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