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thugangel
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: what nintendo has been hiding Reply with quote

here it is. the revo controller teaser

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks really cool, but will not seem appealing to alot of people IMO, but its nice to see something different. it didnt show the goods though, graphics and upcoming games.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so... one of the games for the rev is fly swatting?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Revolution controller has so much potential, it's crazy. I just hope that the movement and whatever for the controller works as well as Nintendo wants, so I can be sure that controlling the game will still be simple and intuitive. Plus, there are attachments for the remote/controller.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems good but that will have to wait and see until the games start comming up and so on. The idea for it is good but it depends on how they use it in the games later on and I don't really see how it'll create better RPG games since that's pretty much the only thing I play oh well have to wait and see
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the control looks so weird i might have to get used to remote =/
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZerosEdge wrote:
so... one of the games for the rev is fly swatting?


No but a mini-game within Mario Paint was.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BWUAAA HA HA HA HA HA

Thats the remote?
Thats crap lol.
Its so stupid
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I'm amazed Nintendo though of such a stupid idea.
Now i know im getting a PS3
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What ignorance. You base everything based on the look, without even trying the control yet. For those who have tried the controller (ign, gamespot, 1up), they were impressed by how well the control works and praised the controller. Plus, the PS3 controller is not even done yet, so what would you know. Oh wait, Sony never tries to change their controller. I mean, the controller has been the same for the first two systems, so why ever change it? It'll just be the same everytime.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So....Nintendo was hiding that heap of crap from us the whole time...I'm kind of dissapointed. Sure, give them a kudos for trying something new, but the controller looks terrible. It looks like a remote control, not to mention it doesn't really have that many buttons on it...game play might take the turn for simplistic, this may or may not be a bad thing. They tried to go for the whole play with only one hand thing, but what are you going to do with the other hand while your playing?? Just seems kind of weird.

Nintendo has had a history of having strange controllers (with the exception of the first nintendo controller). Nintendo is trully the makers of consoles with great innovation, but this just seems too strange. Motion censor to play games has been done before, but I just see that the whole concept of their core controller should have been different, I could have easily liked the controller if it was released souly for a single game and then be subject to other games. As the core controller I find that playing with one hand is odd and the add on analog stick just seems too weird...playing with two hands, but on a seperated controller is just weird.

It's true that we shouldn't judge the controller just yet and that we haven't experienced the game play and the 'works' first hand, but the controller has been getting a lot of attention and skeptisism. I'm not sure if this controller will be announced to be the "revolution" that Nintendo claims to have. Sure Nintendo has pulled off the N64's horrid looking controller, but Nintendo just seems to be running out of tricks to pull.

Look at the innovation it took with the DS. Two screens, but was dominated by the PSP and the superior graphics. Now look at departure of cartridges and when they took the leap to games compiled on disks, they failed because they didn't take advantage of having the system being able to play dvd's and cds. Look at the new gameboy advance micro, sure it's small and can be used as a keychain and such, but the GBA generation is slowly fading away. Bad timing and everything can prove to be the downfall of Nintendo.

Some of Nintendo's innovations have proven to be the power house and backbone of Nintendo's dominant grasp of family orientated games, but there have also been innovations that haven't been taken too kindly. Let's just hope that the controller is able to shed away from the bad things and truly bring upon us all a great "revolution."
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hlawlink, hear hear. Too bad that TGS 2005 wouldn't let the press take shots of those demos that reporters tested and the place was so damn small this year that even Square Enix had to drop out and planned to do their own thing sometime later. As for the PS3 controller, I think Sony will try to be different this time especially with the competition for being wireless.


KamiNoSeigi wrote:
So....Nintendo was hiding that heap of crap from us the whole time...I'm kind of dissapointed. Sure, give them a kudos for trying something new, but the controller looks terrible. It looks like a remote control, not to mention it doesn't really have that many buttons on it...game play might take the turn for simplistic, this may or may not be a bad thing.

biased

KamiNoSeigi wrote:
It's true that we shouldn't judge the controller just yet and that we haven't experienced the game play and the 'works' first hand, but the controller has been getting a lot of attention and skeptisism. I'm not sure if this controller will be announced to be the "revolution" that Nintendo claims to have. Sure Nintendo has pulled off the N64's horrid looking controller, but Nintendo just seems to be running out of tricks to pull.

hypocritical and

KamiNoSeigi wrote:
They tried to go for the whole play with only one hand thing, but what are you going to do with the other hand while your playing?? Just seems kind of weird.
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As the core controller I find that playing with one hand is odd and the add on analog stick just seems too weird...playing with two hands, but on a seperated controller is just weird.

weird

Did you know that Nintendo asked Sony to develop a CD-ROM add-on for their SNES after seeing the Sega-CD and they were going to call it "Playstation"? But after Sony reveaed that they're developing it, Nintendo turned to Philips. Sony's Playstation came out with controllers that has R1, R2, L1, and L2 triggers. Not to mention that it came with Dual Shock Analog!! Wo0o0o, it rumbles. Compared to the Genesis and the SNES (which also came with R and L trigger) controller, the Playstation's controller is weird, isn't it? But it's cool, though. Almost everybody loved it. And now Nintendo asks, how are we suppose to compete now and be different in our own way? We better act fast too. Then, the N64 was born.

However disappointing it may be, Nintendo didn't make their Gamecube compatible with DVD's and CD's because they solely want to make a fun video game console, not just an entertainment center. They also tried to make it harder for piracy (which i bet you're also disappointed at that too ;p ). They seem to succeed on both factors. Not only that, they also succeeded on selling their GBA Micro. Their sale went as they expected, but it didn't exceed well enough to what they had hoped for. I personally would buy this gadget for I am not an eye-candy type of person and I also like to be style-ish when I get bored Very Happy. The only thing is... I don't have money and I need to save up for other stuff Sad.

You say Nintendo has a history for having different controllers because you're too accustomed to Sony's static design and the other systems like Sega Saturn and Xbox (which is similar to Dreamcast) is not too awkward looking from Sony's. The PC controllers that are out nowdays are very similar to the Sony ones too, if you ever noticed.

Yes, VR has existed on systems before like the guns. But they didn't last very long and the calibration always go way off. Nintendo seems to get a hold of a newer and improved technology and make a use of it. Think about it, when you hold a controller, both of your hands are always angled at a V shape and the Revo controller takes this contraints away. You get to move around burning more calories compared to the other controllers which makes you lazy and this controller looks like it's great for a lot of the games, especially for first person shooters, action adventures, horror, sports, mini-games, and simulations. As for fighting games, I think that's when Soul Calilbur comes in. Shwing! Haha, I'm just kidding. It seems like the analog add-on isn't the only thing you could attach to the remote control. It seems like you could do this which you could use for RPG if you like but it seems like the next-gen RPG games are turning away from turn-based or random system. Nintendo also said that you could also download and play ROMS from what they'll release. If you tilt the controller horizontally, it does look similar to the old NES controller, the way the buttons layed out that is.

The Revolution controller is fun, it almost works on all of the game types, and it gives you a bit more freedom and Nintendo wants to be the first to "revolutionize" this concept. That is why they hid this "heap of crap from us the whole time." I'm pretty sure you yourself want to be liked by others just for who you are and I think the Revo controller feels the same way xD. No hard feelings, KamiNoSeigi. I like how you voice out your knowledge, but I feel like you're overlooking at some things.

oh, and credits to wikipedia Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thugangel, very nice. I must admitt you got me there. I admitt I am too accustomed to old fashioned controllers, as I am a Sony person myself. Change is hard on everyone, and Nintendo's controller is a big departure from the average controller.

But do you think that it will really attract the attention of fans? Because the way I see it, the new XBOX button sure looks a lot more dandy than playing with one hand. The controllers now show a lot of innovation from, XBOX's new all in one button, Nintendo's one handed play, and of course (my personal favorite because I am a biased kind of guy) Sony's controller that is made for anyone of any hand size to use.

All the controllers from all the consoles do bring something new, but is Nintendo's controller trully better than the rest?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can't say Nintendo's Revo controller is the best, but it can do more and better things than what others could out there. I read a reporter's review on Xbox360 controller and I must say that I'm very impressed. He said that the controller was small, all the buttons are reachable and your fingers fall heavenly on them, and much much lighter than the regular Xbox controller. The guide button is very convenient to bring up the menu. I personally think that Dreamcast controller was far by the best controller especially for first person shooter, racing, and fighting. But Microsoft improved the controller much better and it's probably the ultimate gamers controller. Sometimes I wonder, if the systems are going to be using wireless routers, could the systems be hacked and be able to use the controllers from the other system? say... PS3 using an Xbox360 controller. That'll be flipping sweet. We'll just hafta see what PS3 have under their sleeves and see if they could overtake Xbox360's controller.

Surely, for the first months the Xbox360 is out, people will be attracted to it. But I think once the Revolution comes out, people will see a little kid in front of a T.V. swaying his right hand around while holding a remote control and a funky tiny gun on the other like he's playing in a virtual arcade. They will line up after him and surely would want to give it a try, maybe even fall in love with it. Not to mention that the console itself is small and attractive.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hlawlink wrote:
... Oh wait, Sony never tries to change their controller. I mean, the controller has been the same for the first two systems, so why ever change it? It'll just be the same everytime.


why fix what isn't broken? seriously, the playstation controller is my favorate and will probably always be. it's a very versatile controller with rumble features, a d-pad, two analog sticks, and ten buttons (remember L3 and R3?). and all the buttons are easily accessalbe from the standard position in which the controller is held. i like it much better than the xbox controller, which kinda throws me off with those little black and white buttons. but i don't know how it fares against the gamecube controller, since i have never played a gamecube.

oh, and to stay on topic, i kinda like the revolutions controller. although it may seem weird for playing the rpgs i love so much, the games that the trailer hinted at seemed fun enough to forgive it of this minor fault. and there may also come along some third party controllers that are more suitable for specific genres.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the controler i think it looks like something that will change the way we play games also think this little Remote will also play all the old games so i think it will be cool to see
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