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Darth
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to try the controller myself but it seems like a real innovation. It may enhance the way we play games and mabe the games themselves Smile

Then again, only time will tell Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the moment, any current consoles present a lot of great graphics and framerate, so the innovation of the revolution's controller should make the gaming experience more interactive.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its good that nintendo tries too come up with new a ideas.
Its very new thinking of them.
Looking forward too test the control
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I going to love playing Zelda with that thing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm excited, but I'm scared that it won't go well because there may not be very many developers who will want to take a chance of doing something creative with the controller. But Nintende will surely give us great titles.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toxicworm wrote:
I'm excited, but I'm scared that it won't go well because there may not be very many developers who will want to take a chance of doing something creative with the controller. But Nintende will surely give us great titles.


More like the opposite. Programmers who are good in multi-cores coding are very rare and game developers for PS3 and Xbox360 are having hard time programming for the consoles. Multi-core programming is pretty new to the wide public and there isn't a lot of documentation in it. So if they find a bug or an error, they mostly won't know what's going on or what's causing it because there are thousands or millions of unknown possibilities.

Conversely, the Revolution is single-threaded processor and I'm sure that a lot of developers will be willing to make a game for what they could do easy and best at. Most of the previews you see right now for PS3 and Xbox360 games, I think the Revolution will have that quality of graphics but not better. If I were SEGA, I would definitely tackle this advantage. Hmm.. Sonic.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know...I'm kind of skeptic of the controller still. I mean because the controller doesn't have that many buttons I'm not sure if it will translate well onto sports games such as Madden and other EA games.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it is necessarially great that fps can be played better on the consoles; the PC will always work well with fps better than consoles, plus pcs probably will have dual or quad cores before the decade is over so programmers will have to adapt as they always had to with increasing hardware innovation.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, higher end PC will be dual or quad processors near in the future. But not so near. Actually, quad processor systems are out by now but how many could afford it? What will be the price range in the future? The multi-core hardwares like Xbox360 and PS3 will be the mainstream real soon and both system are capable of using mice and keyboards. The last two peripherals are the main reason you say the PC is better for first person shooters, right?

Also, do you know the reason why Valve develops their latest project for Xbox360 instead for Windows Vista? Sure PC is upgradeable to pack a lot of power, but you still have a lot to worry about the drivers. How much will it cost to get the latest graphics card and the Ageia card to get it up to par with the next-gen consoles? The distinction between the consoles and PC's are closely diminishing therefore "PC will always work well with fps better than consoles" is nothing but a mere tautology.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nintendo has done it again.
Theyve made it clear that they only really plan on developing for 1 type of genre..... again. lol

Although theres no denying that the controller is very unique, one cant deny that it is very gimmicky. I love nintendo, ive been with them since the original famicom days...but if they ever want to recapture the market like the good old snes days, theyre gonna have to do some better planning.
The problem is that the controller is not practical for alot of different types of games.... i DONT want to play a fighting game with a remote like that...nor do i want to play a racing game with a controller like that.

Anyways...i hope nintendo proves me wrong and shows us a whole bunch of things that the controller is capable of doing ....... but in the meantime im gonna have to say that im not sold on their idea.

Ive given them so many chances....first with the gba being replaced so damn quickly, the n64 just...lacking in every sense...and the same can be said with the gamecube.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is why Nintendo is making shells for the controller, so you can attach it and play in the regular way. It might cost money for attachments, but you do not have to buy a totally different controller to play other games.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dnomyar wrote:
Nintendo has done it again.
Theyve made it clear that they only really plan on developing for 1 type of genre..... again. lol


Nintendo couldn't possibly plan on developing only one genre because that would be impossible, seeing as how their mascot has already made games for most genres that are worth playing. it would be very foolish to go back on that now and just keep him and all of his buddies in one ramdom genre, such as platforming, racing or tennis, since most of the mario games get good ratings and are what keeps the system alive.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with tumor boy on the game gendre thingy, mario's multitasking in all sorts of things, but getting back on the topic of the controller itself, it seems like a pretty strange type of a controller, i mean it looks like a freakin' tv remote! but when u put things into prespective i mean, using somthing like that for motion sensory and attachments, it gives the controller some sort of flexibiltiy wehn moving to different game gendres, for example it can just go from some fps game and then for some totally new twist just trancend into some sort of platformer game, i mean that has to account for something?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamiNoSeigi wrote:
So....Nintendo was hiding that heap of crap from us the whole time...I'm kind of dissapointed. Sure, give them a kudos for trying something new, but the controller looks terrible. It looks like a remote control, not to mention it doesn't really have that many buttons on it...game play might take the turn for simplistic, this may or may not be a bad thing. They tried to go for the whole play with only one hand thing, but what are you going to do with the other hand while your playing?? Just seems kind of weird.

Nintendo has had a history of having strange controllers (with the exception of the first nintendo controller). Nintendo is trully the makers of consoles with great innovation, but this just seems too strange. Motion censor to play games has been done before, but I just see that the whole concept of their core controller should have been different, I could have easily liked the controller if it was released souly for a single game and then be subject to other games. As the core controller I find that playing with one hand is odd and the add on analog stick just seems too weird...playing with two hands, but on a seperated controller is just weird.

It's true that we shouldn't judge the controller just yet and that we haven't experienced the game play and the 'works' first hand, but the controller has been getting a lot of attention and skeptisism. I'm not sure if this controller will be announced to be the "revolution" that Nintendo claims to have. Sure Nintendo has pulled off the N64's horrid looking controller, but Nintendo just seems to be running out of tricks to pull.

Look at the innovation it took with the DS. Two screens, but was dominated by the PSP and the superior graphics. Now look at departure of cartridges and when they took the leap to games compiled on disks, they failed because they didn't take advantage of having the system being able to play dvd's and cds. Look at the new gameboy advance micro, sure it's small and can be used as a keychain and such, but the GBA generation is slowly fading away. Bad timing and everything can prove to be the downfall of Nintendo.

Some of Nintendo's innovations have proven to be the power house and backbone of Nintendo's dominant grasp of family orientated games, but there have also been innovations that haven't been taken too kindly. Let's just hope that the controller is able to shed away from the bad things and truly bring upon us all a great "revolution."

Sorry but I beg to differ on a few points the DS has actually doe better http://www.codepoetsolutions.com/myth/dsvspsp.html
check it out.
Third if you watch G4tech tv's "History Of the Playstation" you would see that nintendo always had plans to have sony do a cd based console but backed outta the deal when sony wanted all the control of the cd technology and thats when sony desided to make the PSX.
Frankly i believe nintendo will not let us down regardless of what anyone else says. I mean they must be doing something right if they are still in the buisness dispite competing againts two of the BIGGEST companies in the world (Have you forgotten who own Microsoft?)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was awesome I can't wait till it comes out.
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