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| What is the innate nature of man:good or evil? |
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lily_sagara newbie!

Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 47
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:16 am Post subject: |
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I chose neither. Cuz evil and good are terms that are taught to us during our life. We're not born evil nor good.
the nature of human is one thing: our survival. When born, only that matters. It's only 'cuz a baby is vulnerable, and needs a mother to take care of, that this isn't manifested that good.
did I make sense? |
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sayoku EviL DoLL

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 8164 Location: la la land
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| pyrorecca wrote: |
| I think that the only flaw of humans is our selfishness but other than that we are for the most good |
that was the most mature post you've ever posted. _________________ "Look at me, with my pretty bracelet and tiara... I'm a fuckin' princess!"
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pyrorecca ask for custom rank!

Joined: Sep 03, 2005 Posts: 3412 Location: In your refrigerator, eating your food
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| sayoku wrote: |
| pyrorecca wrote: |
| I think that the only flaw of humans is our selfishness but other than that we are for the most good |
that was the most mature post you've ever posted. |
HEY!!!
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sayoku EviL DoLL

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 8164 Location: la la land
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:22 am Post subject: |
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lol, sorry sorry, now back to the track. _________________ "Look at me, with my pretty bracelet and tiara... I'm a fuckin' princess!"
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pyrorecca ask for custom rank!

Joined: Sep 03, 2005 Posts: 3412 Location: In your refrigerator, eating your food
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:27 am Post subject: |
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"Good intentions pave the highway to hell"
Therefore we learn from this statement that,
"The staircase to heaven is carpeted with evil intentions"
SEE?!! I'm a mature poster!! _________________ [img:309:200:9b3695521e]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8583/dobedobedojs0.jpg[/img:9b3695521e] |
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betrussel Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Sep 19, 2005 Posts: 63
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:44 am Post subject: |
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People as the bible says were born good and pure. Until Adam or Eve (I forgot which) ate the apple of sin I think. I think later on, there had something to do with a snake, but anyway. The snake might have told them not to eat the apple, I don't know.
Naturally, people are born good, but corruption in the real world and televisions taint their pure minds and persuade them to do 'sins' or 'evil'.
A world without violence or corruption doesn't exist, so a pure 'good' world will probably never come. Even animals have a nature of violence. |
dont think so men are eternally born evil but...we are this chance to be freee with anything we do believe .... we are nver been tainted but we just accept the reality of awakening to be the one we are "once" |
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tientrinh Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Sep 14, 2005 Posts: 73
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| greed= evil... and also... what is this?? and english class?? |
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CGY Jigoku Sensei

Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 13130 Location: The depth of hell...
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| My belief of the nature of mankind has always be one thing only: evil... |
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G-girl Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: May 10, 2005 Posts: 546 Location: NORTH CAROLINA
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I go for both. People generally do good but are also quite selfish which leads them to do evil. It seems the human race just can't be one or the other. Even when we do something to improve the world, many times it will backfire on us and it looks like the ultimate evil when it's all said and done. We need help! _________________ Live to be the best, to be the best - be yourself.
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quosimos uncommoner

Joined: Aug 05, 2005 Posts: 3228 Location: Jack lives here
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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i reject the generalisation that man is inherently evil. im surrounded by evidence thats suggests otherwise, my family and friends and even strangers. There is so much creative and scientific brilliance in the world. If youve ever gazed at an artwork, listened in rapture to a piece of music or marvelled at the possibilities of space travel you will understand. As much as there is to regret, there is also much to be proud of.
but im pretty indecisive. ask me tomorrow and ill complain about indifference, indivdualism and the disregard for human life in an electronic, mechanised, growth orientated global society. actually, you can substitute 'economy' for society because thats how it is unfortunately. if there is evil, it is in the trend to see people as currency and as tools with which one achieves political and economic goals. |
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chiken newbie!

Joined: Sep 05, 2005 Posts: 30
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:21 am Post subject: |
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I believe that humans can't be defined as solidly evil or good just because there have been many atrocities that are evil beyond belief, but at the same time, humans have bonded in times of those trajedies showing their good side . |
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Ezekiel Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Sep 20, 2005 Posts: 52 Location: somewhere else
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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before i can answer to that you need to define good and evil
but i doubt that we can say that someone is good or evil : someone's act can be considered good for some and evil for others
If you steal something from someone it will be good for you and probably your family but evil for someone else |
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Tatty Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Jun 28, 2005 Posts: 52
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: |
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We're human, we're never free from temptation, which usually results in us doing things that we deem to be evil. Guess we're born that way since we have the power of reason to choose and thanks to the power of our minds we would be overly curious to try something.
Would you know that its bad to steal if your parents have not scolded you when you try to take something from a shop without paying when you were still too young to remember anything? Would you know that killing is bad if you didn't learn it? We don't know what is good or bad when we were just born.
You can say that we were neutral when we were born and what direction we took is usually caused by our surroundings when we were young. Though there are extreme cases in life where it could turn a person from good to evil or vice versa but that don't always happen in life. |
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quosimos uncommoner

Joined: Aug 05, 2005 Posts: 3228 Location: Jack lives here
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Ezekiel wrote: |
before i can answer to that you need to define good and evil  |
i take the utilitarian definition of morality: something is good if it produces more happiness than sadness |
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CGY Jigoku Sensei

Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 13130 Location: The depth of hell...
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| quosimos wrote: |
| Ezekiel wrote: |
before i can answer to that you need to define good and evil  |
i take the utilitarian definition of morality: something is good if it produces more happiness than sadness |
That may be true, but that is, if the things are good. So what exactly can we define them as good? |
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