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L4mE
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe life is just a journey to reach somewhere
the place where we can get eternal happiness where we don't hunger
don't feel pain
well i just make it so i don't know how about you guys
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this forum about the biological meaning of life or the physcological meaning.
the biological meaning of life is simple, it's to pass on ones genes, that's why humans subconscioulsy aspire to be better in certain ways because it increase the chance of passing down genes.
the physcological meaning of life has no one answer because it's how you decide to live your life which judges whether life has meaning or not. if things start to get to confusing than you can just join a relegion and spend the rest of your life in ignorance and believe in god and heaven. i mean no offense to any relegious faiths or practicers in this forum so please do not hold it against me.
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chingu
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy_Dojo wrote:
if things start to get to confusing than you can just join a relegion and spend the rest of your life in ignorance and believe in god and heaven. i mean no offense to any relegious faiths or practicers in this forum so please do not hold it against me.


No, of course not. I feel the same way about people like you, so it's all good.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irock wrote:
http://yudkowsky.net/tmol-faq/tmol-faq.html

The answer lies therin


Nobody bothered visiting moir link?!!! It eez g00d moir saiz.

Once thee has figgured out mumbo jumbo...thee is perfectly clear
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

L4mE wrote:
maybe life is just a journey to reach somewhere
the place where we can get eternal happiness where we don't hunger
don't feel pain
well i just make it so i don't know how about you guys


Well, I don't know, I personally want to be able to feel pain always (I mean I want the ability, not that I want to always be in pain). Pain itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, just what caused the pain in first place might be. It's the nature behind it that counts for everything, I think. It lets you know there's something up.

Yeah, I agree that life is a journey to reach somewhere, though. It's how you live your life along the way that determines if you were really alive in the first place. The meaning of Life can be as simple or as complicated as you make it out to be, and a few jaded individuals don't believe there's any meaning outside of biological necessities --- which I feel would be pointless if that's all there was to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As they say "It's the journey, not the destination"

Of course, it follows that the destination must stink pretty bad if the journey is better than the destiantion

Any of j00 watch "final destination"? That show eez wicked!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chingu wrote:
Happy_Dojo wrote:
if things start to get to confusing than you can just join a relegion and spend the rest of your life in ignorance and believe in god and heaven. i mean no offense to any relegious faiths or practicers in this forum so please do not hold it against me.


No, of course not. I feel the same way about people like you, so it's all good.


yah even though you said you meant no offense, you called them ignorant

but anyway lets keep the thread away from becoming a religion wars thread. just go to the sex before marriage thread to find out what a collossal waste of time it is trying to argue on the internet with people who have different convictions. but good God (sorry chingu) that Ron Thump guy gave me the shits. Nooooo... one or two quotes wasnt good enough, he had to post the whole fkn Bible.
ok that let off some steam Razz
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chingu
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irock wrote:
Irock wrote:
http://yudkowsky.net/tmol-faq/tmol-faq.html

The answer lies therin


Nobody bothered visiting moir link?!!! It eez g00d moir saiz.

Once thee has figgured out mumbo jumbo...thee is perfectly clear


lol, how do you know nobody hasn't?

Maybe some of these guys find it too general, or maybe they don't like to read so much. *shrugs*
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chingu wrote:
ladyarakune wrote:
chingu wrote:
quosimos wrote:
hmm yes i havent really made my mind up on spirituality and religion yet. im postponing that until i get older, you know what i mean?
ive come into contact with a range of religions but im still atheist. i normally say im agnostic cause that sounds better in a way but truthfully, im just an ignorant atheist as opposed to an informed atheist. or atheist by default rather than atheist by deliberation.
so how bout you? do you mind typing about it?


Me? I'm a non-denominational Christian, but I've been accused of being both agnostic and a Buddhist. *shrugs* Whatever floats their boats.


religion is so exclusive. yet, its also such a popularity contest.


Well, what is "religion"? Isn't it just a set of beliefs that a person(s) practices and follows? If so, then everyone's involved in some kind of religion, whether it be spiritual in nature, or worldly. But enough of being so abstract.

To the point, I don't agree with religion being exclusive and being a popularity contest. That just depends on the people involved, not necessarily on the religion itself. Am I going to let other people decide how I'm going to practice my own religion? Hell no. I'll decide for myself. That's my way of life, and that's my religion, and anyone's free to join if that's what they want. That's just the way it is.

Perfect spot for a Naruto quote.


well, yes all religions start out centeresd around a base of beliefs/ideas. but after a while, many people just join that religion to say they joined it. it loses all meaning. thats why religion has gotton so BS.


and irock, yeah, someone must have alot of free time
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yah even though you said you meant no offense, you called them ignorant

but anyway lets keep the thread away from becoming a religion wars thread. just go to the sex before marriage thread to find out what a collossal waste of time it is trying to argue on the internet with people who have different convictions. but good God (sorry chingu) that Ron Thump guy gave me the shits. Nooooo... one or two quotes wasnt good enough, he had to post the whole fkn Bible.
ok that let off some steam Razz


I don't know, I'm pretty sure the guy was out to flame a little. Seems he/she''s got a personal agenda, I think. But that's just my opinion.

Anyway, I was thinking about the same thing you were. I was wondering if people were going to turn this into a religious thing after I was asked about my own faith. I mean, it's hard for people to leave religion out of a discussion of this nature since --- for most people --- it does brush up on some kind of faith that they believe in (that would be considered religious in nature, anyway). If it started to get too specific concerning any one religion, I was going to ask that we stay more general and stick to the subject rather than go off on tangents.

I don't know about this Ron Thump. He's probably one of those Bible thumpers that give Christians a bad name. Maybe he had good intentions, but you can't get everything done with aggressive force, lol.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

offtopic: actually bible thumpers give christians a good name.

anyway, funny how people always claim their not that religious but then as soon as a controversial topic comes up they go straight o god and religion...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladyarakune wrote:
well, yes all religions start out centeresd around a base of beliefs/ideas. but after a while, many people just join that religion to say they joined it. it loses all meaning. thats why religion has gotton so BS.


I can't deny that this is true, at least to an extent, but again I'd have to point out that that's really an individual thing. Religion itself isn't to blame, it's people. In one area, religion can be a load of BS because of what it's been turned into by the individuals within the area, and in another area it stays true to its original form and has lots of meaning for those involved.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladyarakune wrote:
offtopic: actually bible thumpers give christians a good name.


Do they?

Well anyway, I didn't say that all Bible thumpers give Christians a bad name. I said Ron Thump was probably a Bible thumper that gave Christians a bad name.

ladyarakune wrote:
anyway, funny how people always claim their not that religious but then as soon as a controversial topic comes up they go straight o god and religion...


Just because people aren't religious doesn't mean they don't have some kind of faith they fall back on. Not very religious does not = no religion. It usually just means they're not all hardcore about it unless something comes around that provokes them into bringing it up. That's just the way people are.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chingu wrote:
ladyarakune wrote:
offtopic: actually bible thumpers give christians a good name.


Do they?

Well anyway, I didn't say that all Bible thumpers give Christians a bad name. I said Ron Thump was probably a Bible thumper that gave Christians a bad name.

ladyarakune wrote:
anyway, funny how people always claim their not that religious but then as soon as a controversial topic comes up they go straight o god and religion...


Just because people aren't religious doesn't mean they don't have some kind of faith they fall back on. Not very religious does not = no religion. It usually just means they're not all hardcore about it unless something comes around that provokes them into bringing it up. That's just the way people are.



okay.it all sort of comes down to what an individual believes and how those beliefs affext heir opinions on life. which is not hte way its supposed to be, but i guess it jus depnds on where you live.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladyarakune wrote:

okay.it all sort of comes down to what an individual believes and how those beliefs affext heir opinions on life. which is not hte way its supposed to be, but i guess it jus depnds on where you live.


So it is, so it does. That's free-thinking for you.
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