Who think games these days really suck?

[Reis_Winds]

I agree with the creator of this topic. Games make look more visually stunning than they used to, but gameplay and fun factor have dropped tremendously.

I personally have to say, I'm really disappointed with games that have come out these days. Their just not top quality anymore.

Especially RPG games, they're not as good as how they were done on the PSone. I find myself going back to PSone titles such as XenoGears, Suikoden or Persona2: Eternal Punishment, because I enjoy those game so much more than any RPG out for the PS2. I feel PS2 RPG's don't quite deliver on the entertainment anymore...

Gimme back my quality games people!
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[subzero]

[b1n]

Might be because of all the deadlines our Game Designers are given.
Cant really blame them.....

[byrc]

It seems very odd to me how people refer to old rpgs as the ones they played on the PSone. Back when I was a teenager, many people use to bash on how PSone rpgs were all about the graphics. Many people looked down on graphic fest games like Final Fantasy 7 and 8. Square was all about making the most graphically intensive RPGs. Some people saw this focus as a weakness that drained the quality of RPGs. It's interesting how people forget these things. You younger people may not think the graphics were so great on these older RPGs, but they were amazing back when they were new. That's why many old school rpg fans saw this as very unfortunate. They missed the sprite based graphics of SNES-age. The use of pre-rendered graphics and 3D character were looked down upon by many old school RPGers. Maybe this proves my point that each gaming generation looks at their own past as better than their current. Your criticisms on the current batch of RPGs were teh same criticisms we used during the PSone days. I wonder whose right Maybe it just doesn't matter

By the way the PSone had its fair share of bad rpgs. Trust me Reis, your past thoughts on the PSone are very nostalgic. The same way I look at SNES rpgs. Yet, nostalgia shouldn't effect our judgement, and should see games are they really are. It is not that I didnt' like the rpgs of the PSone, on the contrary I loved them. Games from that generation are in my top ten list. I'm just trying to say that your criticisms of the current generation are the same criticisms I heard people use to say about PSone games, that include your precious favorites. Many saw the the stories as unoriginal and character development weak. This is TRUE with the MAJORITY of the RPGs released, BUT NOT ALL. The same goes with this generation.
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[manwithnoname]

technically i think the games are good but hey that is just my oppion i mean they are not too good but not too bad either the games graphics are good but if you think the game is bad that just means that you are unable to see the meaning of the game what the author was trying to make out of it
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[snakeboss]

I think games have lost there touch. Maybe its because the next gen is coming and everyone is anticipating alot.

[frezze912]

Maybe it's like old artists and painters, no one likes them until there dead or antique. But it really bugs me how games are getting so horrible. there has always been an argument how games promote violence but its not because of what goes on in the game it's because how frustrated people get after spending 50 dollars on a game for 12 hours or less of quality gaming... thats why i have an hd loader... lol

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[ltdedloser]

I'd have to disagree. The only genre i see that is actually getting worse would have to be RPG's. And just so some of you know, not all games are RPG's... Series like FF and Xenosaga focus on production value because that's what the consumer wants. Let's face it, people love their shiny objects.

Other than that, it's not too hard to find games that are original. Your just not looking.

[Testament]

many new games these days may not seem up to par with some of my old favorites but are by no means bad either. games like RE4 is just awsome for instance, but i always like going back to my old roots(suikoden, guilty gear, KoF). but yeah, probably rpg's have been facing hard times...then again, now that i think about it, there are alot of crappy games out there..man i don't know... i only gave one example of a good new game.

[Aya_Nishino]

[byrc]

Listen to yourselves. Nothing more than nostalgia, nothing more. You talk about old rpgs like the PSX age, but I can recount a number of times when the same things were said about PSX rpgs. Everything you are telling me are the same things people argued back in the 32 bit era. Many rpgs were all about graphics during the mid and late 90s. Those games may not be amazing to you young people, but they were to us oldies, back when they were new. Final Fantasy was culprit to this during PSone days. Almost all the rpgs during the that time tried to mimic final fantasy and to do that they usually tried to put all their effort on graphics.

You think i'm making stuff up, ask any gamer over 20 and they'll tell you the same thing.

**People keep bringing Final Fantasy VII, as being a great game. Well I remember many people use to bash final fantasy vii for focusing on graphics too much. How about those overally long summons, those were annoying to many as well. Hardcore rpg fans didn't welcome FFVII with open arms when it first arrived. It was more popular with younger kids new to rpgs. FF7 was made for that particular reason.

In my personal opinion I loved the psone rpgs and I actually love the stuff we have now too. I can give you many good examples of recent rpgs that have really wow'ed me.

I bet many of you werent' even old enough to remember when Final Fantasy VII was released. FFVII brought rpg's to the american mainstream, but what it also did was bring a whole slush of CRAP that we don't want. There are many older gamers who remember a time when people use to bash FFVII for the downfall of the quality of RPGs and focus on 3D only games.
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[Loveless]

To summarize what he just said...
RPGs are about graphics just recently before it was actually a detailed novel.
Now you guys think FF7 is the shit because it had a good balance of storyline and eye candy. I seriously think hardcore anything needs to die.

[ltdedloser]

Seriously, you guys are acting like every old games was good. There are always going to be bad games to be made. Just because you can only remember the good ones doesnt mean the bad never existed.

[Reis_Winds]

[Night_Child]

I find the new rpgs ok, but games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, 2D FF games are way better to me. Just look at the old games then the newer ones: Super Mario RPG is better then both paper marios and the GBA ones, Chrono Tigger was better then Chrono Cross, FF 3/4/5/6 better then FF 7/8/9/10, etc. But all most newb gamers do is look at the back of the box and look at the graphics. Lets face it they make games for the money, so games will be getting better graphics, easier, and the same storylines.